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Why is there only one quick Ducati?
Crash.net, Wednesday, 12th March 2008


'Various theories are floating round the paddock to explain the gap between Stoner and the rest...'

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It's what everyone's asking in the paddock. The Desmosedici GP8 has more power and better streamlining than anything else, and great tyres. So why can only Casey Stoner make it look respectable? His team-mate Marco Melandri is used to championship pressure (he was 250cc king in 2002) and has previously won five MotoGP races.

In the Alice Ducati satellite squad, team principal Luis d'Antin wanted better results than Alex Barros and Alex Hofmann provided in 2007, and replaced them with the 24-year-old Spaniard Toni Elias - famous for pinching a MotoGP race from Rossi at Estoril in 2006 - and the Frenchman Sylvain Guintoli, 25, who already has a year's experience of MotoGP under his wheels.

The Losail results: Elias was 14th in qualifying, Melandri 16th and Guintoli 17th. They were only marginally better in the race: Melandri 11th, Elias 14th, Guintoli 15th.

Various theories are floating round the paddock to explain the gap between Stoner and the rest. They include: Melandri's got his head all mixed up and is now at the state where he's asking for everything to be changed (a formula that leads to chaos); the Ducati is actually very hard to ride and only a madcap genius like Stoner can handle it (not believable); or, if you prefer, the bike's been developed totally around Stoner's preferences (but even so, with that much power and those Bridgestones, the others shouldn't be that far back).

So, no obvious solution. But the situation isn't helping Ducati's brand image, and one assumes that the sponsors involved can't be happy. There must be lots of strained conversations going on.
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o davaj ir motofrakcija paskelbs savo teorija del stonerio dukacio? galgi pavyks isneshti shviesos i sita maziaus mysle?

mano teorija, kodel stoneris greitesnis: +1dantis ant priekines zvaigzdutes ir vuolia! jau ir greitesnis. ogi ish shono ir net nesimato!

beje, technine komisija nebanina stonerio, reiskia viskas pagal reglamenta, reiskia saziningai dukas visus padaro.
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Arba Italai pasiunte savo zmogu i technine komisija? :-k :)


Siaip tikrai idomu, ypac ziurint i Melandri, kodel toks skirtumas. 2006metais abudu (tiek Melandri tiek Stoneris) vaziavo uz Honda, ir ju abieju rezultatai buvo panasus. Melandris netgi dazniau pasirodydavo siek tiek geriau negu Stoneris. Tik sekanciais metais perejo Stoneris i kita (Ducati) komanda, iskarto diena ir naktis. Nuo pirmo etapo i vienus vartus. Iskarto galima butu teigti - motas. Bet tada kodel Melandris po metu atejes i Ducati taip mala suda. Ir ne biski, o smarkiai (3sec atsilikimas kvalifikacijoje!) Vadinasi kazkoki labai astru ir specifini "nustatyma" (cia bendraja prasme) naudoja Stonka, ir jeigu tik patenki uz jo ribu, iskarto motas nevaldomas, nevaziuoja, etc,etc.

Daug kam idomu kaip sakoma, wtf. Nenustebciau jeigu kazkokia yla islystu is maisho.


Beje pastebejau, kad per sakykim praktika arba kvalifikacijas, stoneris visiskai nesiardo. Isvaziuoja, dazniausiai pirmuosiuose ratuose parodo geriausia laika ir gryzta i boksus. Likus 5 ar 10 min daznai net sedi boksuose ir nebando kazka gerinti, spausti dar ir dar karteli kaip kad kiti...
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Username wrote:Siaip tikrai idomu, ypac ziurint i Melandri, kodel toks skirtumas. 2006metais abudu (tiek Melandri tiek Stoneris) vaziavo uz Honda, ir ju abieju rezultatai buvo panasus. Melandris netgi dazniau pasirodydavo siek tiek geriau negu Stoneris. Tik sekanciais metais perejo Stoneris i kita (Ducati) komanda, iskarto diena ir naktis. ...
Dafai nepamirstam, kad 2007 buvo pereita prie 800cc motu, reikalaujanciu kitokio "priejimo" nei 990 ir matyt geriau atitnkanciu stonerio staila. Be to stoneris dar labai jaunas ir imlus mokslams, todel tiketina, kad per 06-07 tarpsezoni jam pavyko gerokai upgradinti savo skills'us.

Nemanau, kad stoneris naudoja kazkoki labai specifini savo moto suderinima, nes toki pat galetu naudoti ir like trys ducai. Greiciau i viena vieta suejo kruva vienas kita puikiai atitinkanciu veiksniu: stonerio talentas ir jo stilius, ducati power, 800cc, bridgestonai ir traction control. Kazkur esu skaites Rossi ir Melandri citatas, kad niekas kitas rikiuotej nesugeba taip posukiuose isnaudoti traction controlo kaip stoneris.
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Vee, nu baigaim aukstas materijas cia, suauges zmogus gi!
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kaip talentas jam dadeda max greicio?
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sakau ir dar karta pasikartosiu: suzaide ant gearingo.
na dar ka galejo padaryti, tai stoneriui supyle alyva 0w20, o kitiem ta kur a la race 10w-50.
va ir gaunasi nostoliai didesni, del klampios alyvos.
visiem nepila, bo nefig: labai brangi alyva. motoservise ar ne 100+lt/l. net castrol ruko!
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mindaugasa vol.2 wrote:Vee, nu baigaim aukstas materijas cia, suauges zmogus gi!
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kaip talentas jam dadeda max greicio?
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sakau ir dar karta pasikartosiu: suzaide ant gearingo.
na dar ka galejo padaryti, tai stoneriui supyle alyva 0w20, o kitiem ta kur a la race 10w-50.
va ir gaunasi nostoliai didesni, del klampios alyvos.
visiem nepila, bo nefig: labai brangi alyva. motoservise ar ne 100+lt/l. net castrol ruko!
paantrinu mindaugsasa. stoneris ameba, o Vee vel varo nieko nepagristas prognozes!!!
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mindaugasa vol.2 wrote:Vee, nu baigaim aukstas materijas cia, suauges zmogus gi!
?
kaip talentas jam dadeda max greicio?
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sakau ir dar karta pasikartosiu: suzaide ant gearingo.
na dar ka galejo padaryti, tai stoneriui supyle alyva 0w20, o kitiem ta kur a la race 10w-50.
va ir gaunasi nostoliai didesni, del klampios alyvos.
visiem nepila, bo nefig: labai brangi alyva. motoservise ar ne 100+lt/l. net castrol ruko!
Ku jus ce pezat? Kiek atsimenu max speedas tiesiojoj ar tik ne Melandrio geriausias buvo! Bet jam jis nepadeda, bo posukiuose nesusitvarko su valdymu kaip nesusitvarkydavo ir Capirossis. Manau skirtumai tarp Ducatchiu yra butent valdyme/reguliavime ir padangu isnaudojime..
edit. ir Stoneryje :)
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Harley-Davidson News, 13/03/2008
XR1200™ INSPIRED BY WINNING FORMULA

Harley-Davidson's latest racing success shows inspiration behind new model launch


Oxford, 13 March, 2008 - In 1970 Harley-Davidson introduced a new 750cc, 4 speed, 90 bhp V-twin engine motorcycle specifically for flat track racing, the XR750. Little did the engineers realise that the bike they had produced would go on to become the world's most successful flat track bike, destined to dominate championships from the early 1970's through to the present day.

The XR750's success was underlined again (in 2007) with Kenny Coolbeth's second successive victory in the US flat track racing series. Coolbeth, from Connecticut led a one-two-three for the Harley Davidson 'Wrecking Crew' team this year along with team mates Jared Mees and Bryan Smith.

With the launch of the XR1200 scheduled for 2008, there's never been a better time to celebrate the racing heritage that the new XR1200 model is built upon. With the XR750's unrivalled race winning DNA in its genes the XR1200 is sure to take the motorcycle world by storm. Since its prototype launch in Germany in 2006 dealers and customers have been waiting to see the finished product with an anticipation fuelled by excitement.

The XR750's on-track success is unquestionable. Piloted by a multitude of riders down the years, the bike has won 28 of the past 36 AMA (American Motorcyclist Association) championships.

"Kenny Coolbeth's success this season further enhances the Harley-Davidson XR750's reputation as the most successful race motorcycle of all time", commented Matthew Knott of Harley-Davidson Europe. "The incredibly positive reaction we've had to the XR1200 prototype certainly suggests that there is growing interest in a Harley-Davidson motorcycle which has been inspired by the racing line, and we're looking forward to launching the bike in 2008" Knott added.

Flat Track racing is an all-American series where bikes compete on a 1 mile hard packed dirt oval circuit. As in European speedway, bikes slide round the corners spinning their back wheels for balance – although unlike its European equivalent, cornering speeds are often much higher, with some bikes travelling around the oval at speeds in excess of 120mph. The bikes used are powered by a 750cc V-Twin engine mounted in a special flat track chassis, and to keep the riders on the edge of their seats the bikes possess no front brakes.

The series runs throughout the US Summer months, with the first race usually scheduled in March and the season finale in late September or early October. The spiritual home of Flat Track racing is in Springfield, Illinois, at the Fairgrounds Mile where the first AMA championship was held in 1937.

The series is also seen as a launch pad for careers in MotoGP, with international stars like Nicky Hayden and Kenny Roberts both starting their racing careers on the Flat Track circuit.

Harley-Davidson's works team, nicknamed the 'Wrecking Crew' has been a key part of the Flat Track scene since 1914. The most successful member of the Wrecking Crew is Scott Parker who has claimed a record breaking 9 championships in the series. Kenny Coolbeth's second successive victory in the AMA series this year puts him hot on the heels of Scott Parker as the most successful series rider of all time.

20 year old Kenny commented on his 2007 championship title; "It takes an amazing group of people to do what we did this season. Winning the second championship feels just as good as the first one. Our team wants to keep doing this and we've already put our focus on next season."

When William S. Harley first entered Harley-Davidson motorcycles in a racing championship in 1914 the team was quick to establish their authority by winning races and championships in a few short years. "Harley-Davidson motorcycles were raced almost from the very beginning of the company, first by independent owners, and then by an official racing department in 1914," said Bill Jackson, Manager of Harley-Davidson Archives.

The Wrecking Crew (pictured above), was so dominant on race weekends that the name has stuck all the way through to the team led by Coolbeth, Jared Mees and Bryan Smith today.

Further details on the launch of the XR1200 will become available shortly as the bike's arrival date draws closer.
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nepykit wrote:Harley-Davidson's latest racing success shows inspiration behind new model launch
kelios prototipo nuotraukos:

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gal ir nenaujiena, bet man naujiena: bmvhp2s boxerinis sportavykas superbike zuranlo pavadintas paciu progresyviausiu mocu.
gincytinas dalykas, zinant yamahos taikomas technologijas, bet bmv turi idomia fishke: ju ABS stabdziu sistema seka, kad stabdant i ora nepakiltu galinis ratas.
pastebejusi toki fakta, kazkiek atleidzia priekinio rato stabdzius.
siaip tai bmv teleparaleverines pakabos ir taip neleidzia mocui "nukabinti nosies" stabdant, o cia dar kokie gudrumai..
idomu, kiek tokia sistema prisideda prie stabdymo gerinimo? idomu butu pastebeti stabdymo rezultatus su tokia gudria ABS ir be jos.
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mindaugasa vol.2 wrote:..ju ABS stabdziu sistema seka, kad stabdant i ora nepakiltu galinis ratas.
pastebejusi toki fakta, kazkiek atleidzia priekinio rato stabdzius.
Gal ir pagerina rato laika kazkiek, bet as pries! Uzdraust. =; Nx sitaip sterilizuot gonkes? Man baisiai grazu, kai po tiesiosios pries posuki islenda netiketas maziukas stoppie. Juk rezisieriai su pasigardziavimu kartoja tokius momentus, o mes issisiepe ziurom ir plojam. =D>
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Vee Crunchy wrote:
mindaugasa vol.2 wrote:..ju ABS stabdziu sistema seka, kad stabdant i ora nepakiltu galinis ratas.
pastebejusi toki fakta, kazkiek atleidzia priekinio rato stabdzius.
Gal ir pagerina rato laika kazkiek, bet as pries! Uzdraust. =; Nx sitaip sterilizuot gonkes? Man baisiai grazu, kai po tiesiosios pries posuki islenda netiketas maziukas stoppie. Juk rezisieriai su pasigardziavimu kartoja tokius momentus, o mes issisiepe ziurom ir plojam. =D>
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mindaugasa vol.2 wrote:gal ir nenaujiena, bet man naujiena: bmvhp2s boxerinis sportavykas superbike zuranlo pavadintas paciu progresyviausiu mocu.
gincytinas dalykas, zinant yamahos taikomas technologijas, bet bmv turi idomia fishke: ju ABS stabdziu sistema seka, kad stabdant i ora nepakiltu galinis ratas.
pastebejusi toki fakta, kazkiek atleidzia priekinio rato stabdzius.
siaip tai bmv teleparaleverines pakabos ir taip neleidzia mocui "nukabinti nosies" stabdant, o cia dar kokie gudrumai..
idomu, kiek tokia sistema prisideda prie stabdymo gerinimo? idomu butu pastebeti stabdymo rezultatus su tokia gudria ABS ir be jos.
kolega vazineja su opozitiniu BMW enduru, alkuninis ju isilgai moto stovi, tad atidarius gaza, sake griauna i viena sona, reik priprast... ir tie cilindrai braukentys per oksphalta tai ](*,) , nebus racinginis motas is bmw :D
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Nauris wrote: ..alkuninis ju isilgai moto stovi, tad atidarius gaza, sake griauna i viena sona, reik priprast...
Nu. Su normaliu mocu tai atidarius gaza stato ont ratelia, o ne vercia ont shuona!
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motoguzzi anksciau, o bmw lyg ir veliau pradejo naudoti kazkokia kompensacine traukiu sistema. bet sako, kad gerai atidarius rankena visvien biski jauciasi momentas

+1 del visokiu sistemu uzdraudimo. rashysim protesta?
i viena diska tur isirashes berods wsbk ir superstocka 2007 monzoj. ziurint viena po kitos gonkes butent stabdymo momentai TAIP skiriasi, kad ojojoy! superstocke linksma ir malonu ziureti, kaip chebra vinguriuojasi ir stoppinasi pries posukius, o ne pxkaip elektronishkai stabiliai aina i posukius
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